Monday, 18 February 2013

Abbott must share the blame for tax stuff-up


WHEN governments stuff up in a democracy we think the solution is obvious: toss 'em out and give the other lot a go. But if you want a democracy that also delivers good government, it ain't that simple.
For too long, the private partisanship of those who want to see good economic policy lead to good economic outcomes has blinded us to an obvious truth: if you look back at the reform we've implemented, you find almost all of it happened because it had the support of both sides.
It's been too easily forgotten that all the potentially hugely controversial reforms of the Hawke-Keating government - deregulating the financial system, floating the dollar, phasing out protection and moving to enterprise bargaining - were supported by the Coalition.
Amazingly, the last big move to slash protection came during the depths of the recession of the early 1990s, when unemployment was on its way to 11 per cent. Dr John Hewson's big criticism was that Labor should have been bolder.
How did Labor have the courage to do such things? It's simple: it knew any adversely affected vested interests would get no sympathy from its political opponents.
Most Australians - even those who follow politics closely - don't realise how obsessed politicians are by the likely reaction of their opponents to anything they do; how much the policies of the opposition affect the policies of the government.
After Paul Keating failed to win his party's support for a broad-based consumption tax in 1985, he set his face against a goods and services tax. His scaremongering over Hewson's proposed GST was the main reason he won the unwinnable election of 1993.
After Keating's demise at the following election, the Labor opposition abandoned all bipartisanship on economic reform, running another scare campaign against John Howard's GST plan at the 1998 election and going close to defeating him.
This makes the GST the honourable exception to the rule: the only major economic reform we've seen survive without bipartisan support.
And it brings us to the mining tax. Let me be crystal clear about this: Labor has made an almighty hash of the minerals resource rent tax, revealing an abysmal level of political nous, moral courage and administrative competence.
It failed to release the Henry tax reform report for discussion well before announcing its decisions (thereby catching the miners unawares), failed to explain an utterly mystifying tax measure (and, before that, press Treasury to come up with something more intuitive).
It failed to stop the entire business community joining the miners' crusade against the tax, failed to counter the economic nonsense the miners peddled in their TV ad campaign, and failed to hold its own in the negotiations with the big three miners, allowing them to turn the tax into a policy dog's breakfast that, at least in its early years, would raise next to nothing.
In all this Kevin Rudd has to take much of the blame (for lacking the courage to release the Henry report early), Wayne Swan has to take much of the blame (for not putting Treasury through its paces and being so weak at explaining the tax) and Julia Gillard has to take much of the blame (for decapitating Rudd and then being so desperate to rush to an election she was prepared to agree to anything the miners demanded, without proper Treasury scrutiny).
After all that, Labor deserves no mercy. But the truth is Tony Abbott also played a part in lumbering the nation with a bad tax.
The case for requiring the miners to pay a higher price for their use of the public's mineral reserves at a time of exceptionally high world prices (even now) is strong.
Remembering the miners are largely foreign-owned, a well-designed tax on above-normal profits is a good way to ensure Australians are left with something to show for all the holes in the ground.
Similarly, the argument that a tax on ''economic rent'' (above-normal profit) is more efficient than royalty payments based on volume or price is strong, as is the argument that taxing economic rent should have no adverse effect on the level of mining activity. Relative to royalties, quite the reverse.
But Abbott cared about none of that. His response was utterly opportunistic. He would have opposed the tax whether it was good, bad or indifferent.
He saw an opportunity for a scare campaign and he took it, particularly when it became clear the big three miners were out to defeat the tax by bringing down the government and so would have bankrolled his election campaign.
It was fear of what Abbott would say that prompted Labor to delay the release of the Henry report until it could rule out most of its controversial recommendations.
It was the success of Abbott and the miners' joint campaign against the tax that, added to his loss of nerve on the emissions trading scheme, made Rudd vulnerable to his enemies within Labor.
And it was Abbott's strength in the polls that made Gillard so anxious to square away the miners at any cost and rush to an election while her (as it turned out, non-existent) honeymoon lasted.
But noting Abbott's share of the blame isn't the point. The lesson for people hoping for economic reform is that unless they're willing to use what influence they have to urge bipartisanship on their own side, they should expect precious few further advances.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/business/abbott-must-share-the-blame-for-tax-stuffup-20130217-2el60.html#ixzz2LDniEPCp


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134 comments so far



  • I usually respect most of what Ross Gittins has to say but to try blame Abbott to the the mining tax fiasco exposes him as being a little clouded by his political bias.
    Very poor analysis..
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    Nick
     
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    February 18, 2013, 8:35AM
    • To be fair Nick (and other comments saying pretty much the same thing) Ross prefaced his bit on Abbott by slamming the collective efforts of the ALP (which i agree have been rubbish on this issue)
      The mining tax is the example, bipartisan support for well thought out economic reform that looks beyond a federal term is the point.
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      Adam
       
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      February 18, 2013, 10:01AM
    • Wierdly I think he has just copied Michael Pascoe's homework. That aside, there is a (non bias political point) there, which will be shot down by a stream of troll's, grumpy old men and young liberal members, that the standard of opposition behaviour is at an all time low. Where the LNP in the 80's and 90's played a role in good government and policy development, current thinking (not just LNP and not just in oz) is to derail and demolish, with no thought to either short or long term outcomes. Worst of all expect worse with a labor government in opposition post september. Until it changes the only people that will care about politics are sort of the parochial bleaters who are warming up their finger to give poor old ross a spray.
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      tele12
       
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      February 18, 2013, 10:09AM
    • You should read the article, not just the headline.
      You might find out that the headline doesn't actually reflect the gist of the article - which is that economic reform generally requires partisan support; and that Abbott was irresponsible in helping to sink what Gittens believes was a good reform.
      Of course the blame lies with Labour.
      I agree with Gittens. If companies are making obscene profits out of selling publicly owned assets, then it is fair enough to tax them a little higher. Let's face it, what's in the ground is never going to depreciate in value, so there's no chance the miners will leave.
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      Ross
       
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      February 18, 2013, 10:10AM
    • So let me get this straight, commenters so far - your message is:
      "Ross is biased. I'm not. Labor are rubbish. Go LNP!"
      I see. Thanks for the lesson in objectivity.
      The funny thing is that Ross went to soo much effort to clarify that this was about bipartisanship in general and not about one party or the other. There was more criticism of Labor in there than the LNP. Did you cheerleaders even read past the headline?
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      janice
       
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      February 18, 2013, 10:12AM
    • By god the mining astroturfers are out in force today! Ross Gittins is one of the only voices of sanity left in the MSM in this debate and readily attacks both left and right when the occasion calls for it. To accuse him of bias does nothing but draw attention to your own roles and that of your paymasters.
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      Jimmy
       
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      February 18, 2013, 10:20AM
    • Wayne and Julia Gillard
      "has to take much of the blame (for decapitating Rudd and then being so desperate to rush to an election she was prepared to agree to anything the miners demanded, without proper Treasury scrutiny)."
      The only part of this article that counts.........
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      BANK CASINO
       
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      sydney
       
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      February 18, 2013, 10:32AM
    • Rubbish. Gittins rightly lists criticisms of various government ministers and the PM, then mentions Abbott's belligerence (and obsession with his belief he was robbed of the last election) to say no to a rational economic intitiative.
      The only thing wrong with this piece is is doesn't underline Abbott's recent rank hypocrisy in complaining how much the tax hasn't raised.
      Commenter
      drovers cat
       
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      February 18, 2013, 10:33AM
    • So according to the left, its a rational economic decision that should have been supported.
      Nope, whether it is rational depends on your point of view. Conservatve voters opposed it from day one for a number of issues and fully supported Abbott in opposing it. The left need to learn that conservatives do not have to agree with your views.
      As we are clearly seeing the left cannot govern and more and more people are thankfully turning away. Roll on Sept 14 (or earlier).
      Commenter
      mike
       
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      Vic
       
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      February 18, 2013, 10:52AM
    • Unbelievable. Both incarnations of the mining tax were deeply flawed. Numerous economists pointed out the methodological problems (starting base for depreciation, state royalty changes to name two) with both of the attempts but were ignored.
      For a start this "Abbott Abbott" nonsense is a joke. It's not about Abbott. It is about an entire political party with almost half the seats in parliament which has perfectly valid reasons for opposing a disastrous mining tax, a carbon tax headed for the same financial disaster with falling carbon prices, a flawed NBN, overspending on school halls...Not to mention the $1,450,000,000 scheme to...does this make sense...pay companies to put pink batts in peoples' roofs? Oh and a few billion for a really useful change in immigration law...you know there are millions of people out here like me, who are desperate to see the end of this awful government and who don't even care who our leader is, Turnbull, Hockey, or Abbott as long as they are the PM with a party in Government.
      Secondly the logic here appears to be...don't oppose our tax Abbott, because if you do we will introduce a different tax that is even worse??? How does that work?
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      mike
       
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      melbourne
       
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      February 18, 2013, 11:16AM
    • Nick your correct, Ross Gittens is being very myopic if not on the verge of bias in his thoughts. Ross forgets that the coaltion at the time thought they were good reforms. This time the coaltion didn't think they were good reforms so why should they support them. Very simply, reforms are not always good and Tony Abbott is not the cause of everything bad that happens to the government.
      Commenter
      Don't Know
       
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      Sydney
       
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      February 18, 2013, 11:34AM
    • Very good analysis Ross. The chances of good economic reform are now extremely low. Thank goodness the partisan destructiveness is not as damaging as in the US.
      NB Rudd and Swan were fools for bringing in tax reforms in the third year. Note to Future Governments - have tax policy ready to go in year one. Idealist in me questions - how do we get 4 year fixed terms?
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      MG
       
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      February 18, 2013, 12:00PM
    • drovers cat - Gittins is being consistent with his socialist bias (time for him to wake up from his idealistic dream-world). You are now blaming Abbott's "belligerence" and "hypocrisy" for the MRRT fiasco (succeeded in increasing investment risks in Australia for no benefit to taxpayers, nay, since Swan the Goose spent all the money before it was collected, was a huge negative for taxpayers). So what happened to the "great negotiator" that Gillard was supposed to be? She has consistently given away "everything but the kitchen sink" when she negotiated, especially giving in to the Greens over the carbon tax (leaving herself to be seen as a liar and handicapping the Australian economy with no meaningful reduction to emissions) when blind Freddy could have seen the Greens would never have supported the Coalition.
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      hbloz
       
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      February 18, 2013, 12:05PM
    • Out of interest, given the person who drafted the Petroleum Resources Rent Tax legislation is in the Government, Dr Craig Emerson, why was he not involved in the development of the MRRT? Surely he would have some experience in this matter....
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      Carstendog
       
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      Here
       
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      February 18, 2013, 1:16PM
    • Well I have mining shares through my super and any tax raised certainly wouldn't have gone to me or my family as I'm not a low income earner (just like I didn't get anything from the plasma tv cheque splash or the "benefits of the boom" handouts;;; oh but I did have to pay the flood levy!) so I fail to see why the party I voted for, the Libs, should support it. It certainly wasn't in my interests. Every economic policy Labor ever has (whether it be carbon taxes/mining taxes/flood levies etc) just end up being about income redistribution so Abbott's "NO" stance is usually in my interest.
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      JohnW
       
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      February 18, 2013, 2:23PM
    • mike - " a carbon tax headed for the same financial disaster with falling carbon prices, a flawed NBN"
      Actually mike
      a. The carbon tax was meant to recoup less as carbon emissions fell. The Carbon tax is working, and no-one now knows what the carbon price will be when we enter the ETS. Rio Tinto's calculations also failed - some things are unpredictable. You are predicting carbon prices will still be low when the ETS takes over, but you don't know.
      b. flawed NBN - just wait till you hear about Tony's plan to let 100 dams spill.
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      Ross
       
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      February 18, 2013, 2:29PM
  • Yep Abbotts fault, all his fault. He is the one that wasted billions and passed legislation through and badly managed the economy. He signed us up to a carbon tax that will leave a multi billion dollar hole in the budget come 2015. He is the one that brought us pink batts, he is the one that designed the mining tax and held negotiations, he did everything. A mining tax is pathetic, in the bad times, miners suck it up because the still dig. In the good time that should seek the rewards like every business in Australia. Lets look at the percentage on return as oppose to the billions. They may run at a net loss for years on end, or a small return, they have 5 good years and yep typical left lets nail them with higher costs. Amazing Gillards at 30% primary let me guess that’s Abbotts fault to. He wasted all the billions he did everything. Useless article.
    Commenter
    Phil
     
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    February 18, 2013, 8:48AM
    • Tony's election campaign is financed by miners?
      Is that even legal?
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      sarajane
       
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      February 18, 2013, 11:13AM
    • Agree
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      Peter
       
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      February 18, 2013, 11:17AM
    • So the Opposition disagreed with something, did not vote for it and they are to blame for it..... Is this serious?
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      Carstendog
       
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      February 18, 2013, 1:18PM
    • Sarah Jane labors election campaign is financed by the unions. is that even legal.
      Commenter
      Kab
       
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      February 18, 2013, 1:50PM
  • Would you similarly blame Rudd, Gillard, Shorten and the unions for the failure of Workchoices - another great economic/IR reform of our time?
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    wharfy
     
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    February 18, 2013, 8:54AM
    • Workchoices: Great for business, but terrible for actual human beings.
      Commenter
      Ross
       
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      Preston
       
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      February 18, 2013, 10:11AM
    • Ergo my argument regarding moving to a direct democracy model of government. That way when they (politicians) try to foist things on us for "our own good", then we have a mechanism available to us to get involved in the decisions. If/ when a government tries to implement legislation we as a people disagree with, then the mechanism of direct democracy makes the politicians have to consider our (the voters) wants, needs, ideas......but the parliament will say its a loony idea, as they lose their power base. But the same system seems to be working a charm in Switzerland......
      Commenter
      shemp
       
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      melb
       
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      February 18, 2013, 10:55AM
    • Care to cite some examples Ross? Advertisements aren't a reflection of real life, otherwise Mr Sheen would be a real person.
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      Graeme
       
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      Sydney
       
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      February 18, 2013, 11:05AM
    • If it were a 'great economic reform' instead of just an assault on workers' rights and conditions that might be the case.
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      Redsaunas
       
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      February 18, 2013, 11:16AM
    • I never understood why it was good idea to dismantle hundreds of years of work to put in place protection for workers. I also can't understand why u would want to try to compete with low wage, low regulation countries on wages, that will never be our strength.
      I would appreciate if you could explain that to me.
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      J.
       
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      Syd.
       
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      February 18, 2013, 11:28AM
    • Ah shemp you talk about 'Direct Democracy'; the three principles - universal participation, political equality, and majority rule - are usually recognised as the ingredients for democratic decision making. In small simpler styled society's I suppose these principles can be met in a direct democracy, in which all members of the group meet to make decisions, whilst strictly observing political equality and majority rule. But in Australia, given even the trouble we had to overcome the impacts of the Global Financial Crisis, how would a group of people voting for even more individualism, (as in personal wealth at any price) compromise with a group of people voting to more evenly share wealth? How could the ALP and the Liberal Party compromise so that a model of direct democracy can actually work, given that so far we cannot even achieve good outcomes for taxes on mining and reducing climate pollution etcetera?
      Commenter
      Adam Smith
       
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      February 18, 2013, 12:46PM
    • Actually Workchoices resulted in decreased productivity - it wasn't a "success" even for the businesses who so badly wanted it introduced.
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      Bob
       
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      February 18, 2013, 1:05PM
  • Once again Ross does it matter what Abbott or the coalition do or think or vote? All those with a slight knowledge of Australian politics will know currently that Labor, the greens and the independents have the numbers to pass bills regardless of how Liberal or National MPs vote. The senate is also labor controlled, so how does Abbott fit in this picture again?
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    Michael
     
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    February 18, 2013, 8:56AM
    • Ah Ross so desperate to blame Tony Abbott for the Government's stuff-ups. Given all the things wrong with the tax (which you do at least acknowledge) then Abbott did exactly the right thing in opposwing it. And given that the Government wasn't able to sell it on its merits (because it had no merits) but instead wanted to indulge in a confected class war - then it was entirely appropriate to engage in the contest on the Government's chosen battlefield, that of public opinion.
      If the Government had wanted to engage in a debate about the policy and its merits then yes Abbott might have been able to take a bi-partisan view on the matter.
      The real problem is that the media is unable to allow a true policy debate to happen - it is constantly looking to knock any proposals put up by the Government or the Opposition and turn them into a political fight.This is what has politicians running scared
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      Sam
       
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      Adelaide
       
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      February 18, 2013, 9:01AM
      • Ah Sam - so ready to absolve Abbott of any mistakes he has made and of any blame for what he does and to ensure that he is never accountable.
        Being in LNP means never having to say you're sorry.
        No care and no responsibility. That's only for others.
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        Ross
         
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        February 18, 2013, 11:07AM
    • Gee Ross, who has been in power for the last 5 years? Talk about spin. Your true colours are really showing today. Its what I call a SAM: Socialist Authoritarian Mantra: in lay terms "we know best". Thats the real problem with Labor, they never govern for the majority, they never listen to the majority, they always know best, yeah right. September 14 2013 can't come soon enough.
      Commenter
      same again
       
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      February 18, 2013, 9:10AM
      • As a person who has never voted Liberal and never will, and has not voted Labour since the Tampa (K. Beazley hang your head in shame), l think the best thing for this country is for M Turnbull to be immediately instilled as opposition leader. Apart from dismantling the right wing elements in the Liberal Party, he would shift the political debate enough to the left to force Labour further to the Left for political differentiation and possible coalition with the Greens to remain relevant electorally. Turnbull would win in a landslide and begin to undo the extreme right/conservative views in society that was allowed to gain traction through John Howard's tenure. And this alone would be an excellent outcome, but the sentiments of your article Ross would suggest, that if the political debate was further to the left then bipartisan policy changes would result in better reforms for the country also.
        Commenter
        dialisisking
         
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        February 18, 2013, 9:13AM
        • You're kidding right?
          You who has never voted Coalition wants the Libs to choose a leader that YOU prefer.
          I could ask the same question of the ALP!
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          Paleocon
           
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          vic
           
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          February 18, 2013, 10:17AM
        • Well said. I'd vote for Turnbull. No way can I vote for Abbott and and prefer not to vote for Labor, but at the moment Labor is the lesser of two evils - by a huge margin.
          Commenter
          QED
           
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          February 18, 2013, 10:46AM
        • I'd rather Turnbull was running the libs also, and I've never voted for them. Is there some law against that?
          @Paleocon - by all means you are welcome to nominate anyone in Labor you'd rather see as leader of that party. No problemo
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          hehe
           
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          February 18, 2013, 11:41AM
        • Paleocon - these threads are full of people who don't vote ALP who tell the ALP what they should do.
          If it is ok for them, then it remains ok for diaiisisking.
          I agree with him - Turnbull is a leader who can unite the country behind him - Gillard cannot and Abbott cannot.
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          Ross
           
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          MALLABULA
           
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          February 18, 2013, 11:42AM
      • One party got stooged and the other party is the stooge of the miners!
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        Mark
         
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        oz
         
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        February 18, 2013, 9:17AM
        • Another celebrity left wing economist blaming Abbott for a badly designed and implemented tax because he choose to opose it (maybe it is a bad tax has anyone thought of that) it would be nice if for once we had some of the vocal left wingers actually start and finsh an article stating that a bungled policy the Labour party implemented got it wrong and I got it wrong thinking they knew what they were doing. Blaming the opposition for the government's mistakes is lazy.
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          badtax 
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          February 18, 2013, 9:18AM
          • You have got to be out of your mind Ross.
            The RSPT was, and is, a stupid idea, based on an untested assumption that state-royalties are inefficient, it was fudged by Dr Henry basically to take over the economic wealth of the State to plug the fiscal mess he created, and was totally botched by Treasury and Swan.
            Could you please stop writing this revisionist, pro-Labor junk?
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            Economist
             
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            February 18, 2013, 9:21AM
            • Wrong, the principle behind the MRRT is far and away better than a royalty-based scheme, which is adminstered by the states.
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              Econorat
               
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              February 18, 2013, 10:09AM
            • +1
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              sambetts
               
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              February 18, 2013, 10:17AM
            • @Econorat
              Why then did Treasury, in the KPMG EconTECH general equilibrium modelling of the marginal excess burden of various taxes, direct that the PRRT (whcy the RSPT was based on) be assumed to be perfectly efficient? (http://taxreview.treasury.gov.au/content/html/commissioned_work/downloads/kpmg_econtech_efficiency%20of%20taxes_final_report.pdf)
              They paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to get a bodged up report that supported Dr Henry’s biases and prejudices against States and big business.
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              Economist
               
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              February 18, 2013, 10:50AM
            • a. The states are to be fully compensated - so he was taking nothing from the states.
              b. royalties are paid when dirt is taken out of the ground. It is charged at the same rate whether the company is running well, badly, or even making a loss.
              c. Profits tax is not paid until the company is making high profits. It is a progressive tax and kinder to the mining industry.
              Please explain, economist, how that is less efficient than state royalites, and how it gives the Federal Treasurer access to state money.
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              Ross
               
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              MALLABULA
               
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              February 18, 2013, 11:44AM
            • I think the concept of paying more tax when you earn more and less tax when you earn less is pretty much tested as being more efficient than a flat rate levy unrelated to what an institution actually earns.
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              Peter
               
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              Oz
               
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              February 18, 2013, 11:45AM
            • Wowee, you guys are completely wrong. Royalties are paid when the minerals are sold - they are paid on a percentage applied to total revenue. The percentage increases as the average price increases. As prices go up, so do royalties. It's that simple. Don't listen to what the sycophants say; they are wrong.
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              I hate pies
               
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              Qld
               
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              February 18, 2013, 12:49PM
          • And we're going to reward this bloke with the Prime Ministership. Says something about us that we cringe to self-interested bogan billionaires, fall hook, line and sinker for textbook propaganda, and allow lazy opportunistic bullies to float to the top of the murky billabong. Coulda been champions.
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            Bluepoint
             
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            February 18, 2013, 9:22AM
            • Bluepoint that is one silly post. Do you not realise that it is ordinary shareholders, including probably yourself, who would be taxed under the RSPT and MRRT. If you regard Rinehart, Palmer and Forrest as unintelligent then by all means show them what a smart guy like yourself can achieve.
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              Graeme
               
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              Sydney
               
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              February 18, 2013, 12:17PM
          • Frankly, Australians deserve better government than they've had under the ALP the last few years. But I'd be astonished if we were to get it from the other side.
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            wizofaus
             
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            February 18, 2013, 9:26AM
            • To the maxim, "out of the frying pan, into the fire", let's add, "decide in haste, repent at leisure".
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              cruiseabout
               
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              Broadbeach
               
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              February 18, 2013, 9:27AM
              • This is lazy writing, at best. It's hardly Abbott's fault that Gillard, Swan and Ferguson completely ballsed up the negotiations over their watered down tax. By extension of your logic, Ross, everything that the government has completely mis-managed is partially Abbott's fault on the basis that he didn't roll over and agree to it. In case you hadn't noticed, Abbott isn't the PM and the Lib/Nats aren't the Government (yet).
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                brian
                 
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                February 18, 2013, 9:28AM
                • Abbott has every means at his disposal to negotiate this through the senate with proper and reasoned debate.
                  He did none of this.
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                  Econorat
                   
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                  Sydney
                   
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                  February 18, 2013, 10:11AM
                • But Mr Abbott MP is totally opposed to a super profits tax upon the dug up minerals owned by all Australian Citizens, so what's your point. In its first six months of operation the people received $126 million more. Under Mr Abbott it would be nothing. How Clever the Liberal Party of Australia and how stupid the ALP for Failing to make the Australian people understand this simple fact.
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                  Cicero
                   
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                  February 18, 2013, 11:06AM
                • Brian - you lot never blamed Abbott and Howard for their stuff ups when they were in power, so it is no surprise that you hold them blameless for what they do in opposition.
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                  Ross
                   
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                  MALLABULA
                   
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                  February 18, 2013, 11:17AM
                • Yes, Abbott is partially to blame for the political outcomes of the last two terms. He's not some powerless opinion piece writer in a newspaper. He's controls the direction of almost half our parliamentarians. So if he's willing to undermine just about everything the government does then of course its going to have an impact.
                  Of course no opposition wants to make the government of the day look good, however there's meant to be a notion of the greater national good in politics that means occasionally if not supportive, then just letting the government try roll out its policies without unending scare tactics. To my memory, Tony Abbot has taken the path of complete opposition to the extreme.
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                  Peter
                   
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                  Oz
                   
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                  February 18, 2013, 11:55AM
                • He was never going to do that because the legislation goes against his, and his party's, convictions. Conviction's are things that Labor used to have under Keating and Hawke. Out of desperation, Party Central has replaced them with smear.
                  Commenter
                  brian
                   
                  Location
                  Date and time
                  February 18, 2013, 11:58AM
                • Econorat why would you negotiate to improve a fundamentally flawed scheme? Surely you'd only negotiate to improve a sensible scheme? Above you just baldly assert the MRRT is better than the royalty programs of the States but give no reasons. Please try to justify your assertions.
                  Commenter
                  Graeme
                   
                  Location
                  Sydney
                   
                  Date and time
                  February 18, 2013, 12:22PM
                • @Ross, etc: Can you please explain how Abbott supporting the current mining tax the Government negotiated with the big three miners would have delivered even 1 cent more than the paltry $126 million recently announced by Swan? The other Ross contends that bi-partisan support for this policy would have somehow magically averted the "stuff up", but the evidence suggests it was a dud from the get-go because it didn't effectively deal with royalties. Who in their right mind would support a tax that, as we now know, was destined to fail from the get go and, knowing this, how can you and "your lot" maintain it was all Abbott's fault and still keep a straight face?
                  Commenter
                  brian
                   
                  Location
                  Date and time
                  February 18, 2013, 12:54PM
                • Graeme,
                  I have justified the differences before.
                  The Roylaty taxes are flawed and are based on tonnages only; not how profitable the mine is, or the current prices on the ore/coal; or the cost of the actual infrastructure that has to be put in to get it to the markets; it has to be paid as soon as you start shipping product rather than the MRRT allowing depreciation first; it's irrespctive of actual haulage costs. It means some mines are closed down before all 'economic' production is done, leaving incomplete ore/coal extraction.
                  Royalties are paid irrespective of a slump in spot prices and therefore often mines will be mothballed rather than pay roylaties on a marginal gain, whereas MRRT doesn't penalise.
                  Commenter
                  Econorat
                   
                  Location
                  Sydney
                   
                  Date and time
                  February 18, 2013, 1:03PM
              • The whole thing was a disgrace:
                Labour's ineptitude in not explaining the tax and selling the benefits of it.
                Liberals for siding with the miners who were crying poor, even though the tax made sense economically.
                The miners for deciding to bring down a democratically elected government so they can save a few bucks.
                And that was all before Rudd was toppled and the new tax was renogotiated - then it just got a whole lot worse.
                I found it unbelievable that the miners managed to successfully portray themselves as the little guys, the aussie battlers, "us" as opposed to the multinational corporations they actually are.
                Commenter
                Ross
                 
                Location
                Preston
                 
                Date and time
                February 18, 2013, 9:29AM
                • You seem to forget that the miners are the ones keeping this country going. They are the ones who take the risks, employ thousands and make sure we have some decent exports becasue Labor has managed to stuff upl every it touches. Don't blame mining companies for the stupid policies and decisions made by this useless government.
                  Commenter
                  JP
                   
                  Location
                  Sydney.
                   
                  Date and time
                  February 18, 2013, 10:42AM
                • Ross that is a big part of my gripe about the RSPT & MRRT. Swan sought to personalise the tax, claiming it was being levied on fat greedy miners rather than taxpaying shareholders of such. And Labor supporters endlessly repeat the stale facile lies of Swan without any thought or a moment's reflection.
                  Commenter
                  Graeme
                   
                  Location
                  Sydney
                   
                  Date and time
                  February 18, 2013, 12:25PM
                • Yes, but aren't all taxes on companies taxes on shareholders by extension?
                  The tax reflects the fact that mining companies are now making larger and larger profits from digging up public assets and on-selling them. Oh, and from destroying the land underwhich these assets lie.
                  It is not unreasonable for the community that owns the resources, i.e. the Government, to realise they are not getting their share of the profits. Afterall, it's not like the resources can be dug out of the ground again in the future when future generations decide they need or want them.
                  The states are currently free to review royalties as they wish, which is an other tax on shareholders that taxes them as the resources come out of the ground. At least the mining tax waits until they have turned a profit from the resources.
                  Commenter
                  Ross
                   
                  Location
                  Preston
                   
                  Date and time
                  February 18, 2013, 1:18PM
                • JP "You seem to forget that the miners are the ones keeping this country going. They are the ones who take the risks, employ thousands and make sure we have some decent exports "
                  a. The miners have a smaller effect thatn you seem to think.
                  b. The miners have kept our exchange rate high - and I don't criticise them for that.
                  c. It is the nature of capitalims to take risk - high risk gives high potential reward or terrible potential collapse.
                  d. A profits tax reduces the risk compared to the royalties that it replaces.
                  e. When the price for our minerals increases or falls, the money that miners pay for our minerals should follow the same trajectory.
                  In other words - no-one is persecuting miners.
                  Commenter
                  Ross
                   
                  Location
                  MALLABULA
                   
                  Date and time
                  February 18, 2013, 2:36PM
              • Look out Ross, you are about to be pilloried by the Rabid Right. Because you apply blame to TA you obviously are biased and/or you don't know what you are talking about.
                Its a real pity about what has happened to our political discourse and bipartisanship. We are served by such a pathetic political class these days and that has rubbed off onto the supporters.
                Personally I think your article and that by Michael Pascoe last week in a similar vein are ballanced and on the money.
                Commenter
                Gemini
                 
                Location
                Date and time
                February 18, 2013, 9:35AM
                • MIght be a bit biased yourself there
                  Commenter
                  John Halen
                   
                  Location
                  Date and time
                  February 18, 2013, 12:09PM
              • I also recall the 1983 - 1996 years when Labor took a "right" turn and did things that would've made Chiefly turn in his grave. It was during these years that both major political party's, highly influenced by owners of capital, changed our way of life, by changing the way we employed one another. Both political party's, the ALP & Liberal/Nationals with their devoted membership had seemingly forgotten how profit arises from waged labour. They've forgotten that it can only come, more or less, into being if the employer (the owner of capital) pays the employee less than the value of what it is the employee produces. The function of capitalism has always been based upon the accumulation of it based on the wages paid to workers. Both political party's design economic policy for the process to continue. The question that the media must ask and publish, leading into this election cycle is; 1. Which political party has the right economic/social policy for all Australians with only his or her "skilled" labour to sell ?
                Commenter
                Adam Smith
                 
                Location
                Katoomba
                 
                Date and time
                February 18, 2013, 9:37AM
                • What I find really distressing is the number of Greens supporters who are under the illusion that economics doesn't matter or no longer applies, that the observations and theories of centuries should be junked and that the Greens know better about everything. Are workers debarred from saving their own earnings and excluded from our capitalist society?
                  Commenter
                  Graeme
                   
                  Location
                  Sydney
                   
                  Date and time
                  February 18, 2013, 12:31PM
                • The Greens have nowhere to hide. They must use the constantly evolving system of capitalism to achieve their policy outcomes. But how society uses that system determines either a good way of living for all Australians or the reverse. Even the President Obama is grappling with the system of capitalism, how to achieve good outcomes in medical care, education and reducing atmospheric and water pollution. The basic issue is how profits are made and how those profits are diverted into new value creation, given that the owners of capital are very few compared to the workers who are employed by the owners. The man who enlightened us all in this respect was Karl Marx with his famous "surplus value" - the unpaid labour that accrues to the capitalist by virtue of his position of dominance in the wage labour process and from which profit is derived. Take the announcement concerning research grants. When innovation takes the form of a new product, the capitalist enjoys a monopolistic profit more often than not short-lived in its duration, and reaps a surplus from the society in much the same way a shop-owner is able to sell scarce and highly desired goods (Apple etc). As technological invention lowers costs of production, the pioneering capitalist enjoys an advantage similar to that of a land-lord living in Toorak or Double Bay. What is important to understand is that these profits owe their existence to the system of property rights upon which the system of capitalism is built. A political party will always engage more or less the capitalist sector than they would union leading sector. We live in interesting times indeed.
                  Commenter
                  Adam Smith
                   
                  Location
                  Date and time
                  February 18, 2013, 1:24PM
                • Graeme - "What I find really distressing is the number of Greens supporters who are under the illusion that economics doesn't matter or no longer applies, that the observations and theories of centuries should be junked "
                  None of the Greens that I know, or me from my own green leanings, fits your description, Graeme - you are attacking a straw man.
                  Commenter
                  Ross
                   
                  Location
                  MALLABULA
                   
                  Date and time
                  February 18, 2013, 2:32PM
              • Really Ross, with this level of bias you should be on the ABC payroll.
                Fearing what Abbott would say delayed the release of the Henry report? Duplicity toward the mining industry is a little closer to the truth. "Don't worry, nothing bad in this, and we will consult with you well in advance".
                The "success " of the campaign against the tax was a victory against an appallingly badly devised, damaging, class envy driven, inept concoction that demonstrated not only the government's but also Ken Henry's incompetence.
                The tax kicked in at around a 7% return on capital - hardly an encouragement for private investment, but then I suppose this government and much of the bureaucracy would not understand that when you risk private capital you need a return to justify the risk. You can't simpy lean over and a create another tax to fund your (often) profligate spending commitments.
                The damage caused to our reputation, the creation of sovereign risk where previously there was none, has been enormous.
                And what are "super" profits? Oh well, a level of profits that doesn't seem "fair" and that allows the government to collect more tax. Refer to above point on rate of return if you think they addressed this point objectively.
                And as for the notion of companies being refunded monies under certain circumstances (as was noted last week as likely to be occuring now had the original tax been implemented), does ANYONE think this government would have honoured such a uniquely absurd proposal?
                And finally, naughty Mr Abbott had strength in the polls, causing Gillard to "square away the miners at any cost". That implies Gillard and Swan knew what they were doing Ross - now I know you being in ABC land.
                Commenter
                AndrewT
                 
                Location
                Wagga Wagga
                 
                Date and time
                February 18, 2013, 9:38AM
                • The MRRT is a neutral tax and does not inhibit investment. The monied taxes reported to date only represent the first six months with this new tax.
                  Commenter
                  Adam Smith
                   
                  Location
                  Date and time
                  February 18, 2013, 1:44PM
              • The government were always on the back foot with this from the public's perception. Whilst the idea of dragging in some of these super profits for the benefit of our future generations is fantastic, the reality is that no one in their right mind trusts this government to stick to this. One of the very first things that the Labor Government did upon getting to power was to raid the future fund in order to prop up their whirlwind spending spree. Why should we have any faith that they can keep their grubby hands off the income from the mining tax?
                Commenter
                Karraway
                 
                Location
                Sydney
                 
                Date and time
                February 18, 2013, 9:38AM
                • To add to my previous comment Ross.
                  I note your comment about "Remembering the miners are largely foreign-owned, a well-designed tax on above-normal profits is a good way to ensure Australians are left with something to show for all the holes in the ground". Putting aside the factual incorrectness of this (eg check the Fotrescue share register), I presume that you have called for zero support for the car manufacturers in Australia (100% foreign owned Ross) plus a special tax for them?
                  Commenter
                  AndrewT
                   
                  Location
                  Wagga Wagga
                   
                  Date and time
                  February 18, 2013, 9:44AM
                  • Abbott's approach to politics over the past few years has definitely damaged Australia. Its understandable though, as he's been perched only a vote or two away from being PM for all that time. He must have figured that a small bit of damage could be fixed up later, never figuring it would be years. What positive outcomes might we be enjoying now?
                    A Minerals Tax keeping billions in Oz instead of heading overseas? People embracing the possibilities of a carbon tax instead of needlessly being scared of it for years? A national telecommunications infrastructure that's not under threat of being halted in its tracks? A regionally co-ordinated approach to immigration issues?
                    An oppositions job is not just to blindly oppose, at the risk of sounding naive, its also to work for the betterment of this nation. I understand there's a pragmatic balance between those two goals. But the opposition seems to have forgotten about the later in its pursuit of being elected. No doubt it will begin considering the electorates interests more during this year.
                    Commenter
                    Peter
                     
                    Location
                    Oz
                     
                    Date and time
                    February 18, 2013, 9:45AM
                    • What a ridiculous article.
                      You can criticise Abbott for his stance, but the monumental stuff-up is 100 per cent Labor's problem, with the 'world's greatest treasurer's" fingerprints all over it.
                      Commenter
                      Richo
                       
                      Location
                      Canberra
                       
                      Date and time
                      February 18, 2013, 9:47AM
                      • Yes! How Ross draws that bow is pretty unbelievable especially when Labor opposed the GST that won Howard an election (that Ross does acknowledge).
                        I have no problem with having a mining tax (just not this one nor Rudd's original proposal).
                        Now Labor had the numbers with the support of the Greens and Independents to get the legislation through so whatever was put up Abbott at the end of the day did not have a say. If you want to blame someone other then Gillard look to the Greens who allowed such shoddy legislation to pass.
                        And Abbott was to blame for Labor's poor handling of the Henry report? Pulease...Take out those references and it really as a good article.
                        Commenter
                        Another Steve
                         
                        Location
                        Date and time
                        February 18, 2013, 2:03PM
                    • Hold up, Labor go apolyptic with doom and gloom every time a business leader, let alone the Libs, even says the words 'Industrial Relations'. Yet the Libs deserve the blame for not supporting a badly designed tax, that was poorly explained and rushed through with little detail?
                      Labor made it their mandate to oppose everything with shrill shreiking since Howard's GST, and when the Libs do offer support Labor are still completely unwilling to compromise (NDIS anyone?).
                      Commenter
                      Regularchap
                       
                      Location
                      Sydney
                       
                      Date and time
                      February 18, 2013, 9:47AM
                      • The point is not that it is Abbots fault, rather that effective administration requires bipartisan support for good policy. I find it hard to trust a leader who has opposed good policy in self interest just as much I can not trust Gillard who sold the country down the drain for self interest.
                        Commenter
                        David
                         
                        Location
                        Sydney
                         
                        Date and time
                        February 18, 2013, 9:54AM
                        • Nice to see all the clueless out in force this morning.
                          Maybe those criticising Henry might bother to read the Henry Tax Report and realise that the mining tax was only ONE of 40 or so recommendations. If you read the chapter on the mining tax it is actually very well thought out and would have worked well. Unfortunately for ALL Australians, the mining lobby, with ideological backing from the Opposition neutered it. So it is entirely rational to attribute some of the blame to Mr Abbot.
                          As for the government being in power for 5 years, they have essentially no majority, so anyone with half a clue on realpolitik would realise Ross is correct.
                          Commenter
                          BJB
                           
                          Location
                          Date and time
                          February 18, 2013, 10:05AM
                          • What twisted logic Ross.
                            Gillard owns this. "The Grayt Nahgohseeayda" flew in from a fundraiser in Qld with Bill Ludwig when she knew a deal was imminent. (She wasn't in the room with Swan and Ferguson.)
                            She then wheeled in the drinks trolley and promptly took all the accolades.
                            Oy got it dunnn. Oy got it dunnn.
                            To try to turn this onto Abbott is pure comedy mate.
                            Commenter
                            Ron OKnox
                             
                            Location
                            Vic
                             
                            Date and time
                            February 18, 2013, 10:12AM
                            • Fairfax's bias knows no bounds. Now the Opposition is responsible for the Government's debacle? How ridiculous.
                              Is its shrinking political reporting to be replaced with such dross? No wonder the company continues to lose readership and money.
                              Commenter
                              Jonathan
                               
                              Location
                              Sydney
                               
                              Date and time
                              February 18, 2013, 10:12AM
                              • A good analysis Ross. I note the LNP supporters don't agree with your story though, and often put a slant on it that you did not imply. Not being a member of a political party but interested in history and politics I find what you have written interesting. The MRRT appears to be a debacle though we should have more figures before the budget. What is more interesting in the bigger picture is the part big companies play in the politics of our economic future. This should not happen but I don't expect it to change. One defence of Labor in all this though is the bad press they have to contend with, particularly the Murdoch press. The best example here is the Gillard liar campaign on her pre election statement on the carbon tax. Politicians deserve almost all they get but this campaign against Gillard has been extremely relentless. I don't remember others being called liars by the press eg Howard (core/non core promoises (1996)), Howard (children overboard (2001)), Abbott (medicare safety net (2004)). They got bad press but never called liars. So yes I think your analysis is good.
                                Commenter
                                Pollyho
                                 
                                Location
                                Date and time
                                February 18, 2013, 10:19AM
                                • It's Abbott's fault for the ALP being down in the polls,it's Abbott's fault the ALP can't balance the books,it's Abbott's fault that every major ALP policy failed.
                                  C'mon Ross do you really believe what you have written?
                                  Commenter
                                  Paleocon
                                   
                                  Location
                                  vic
                                   
                                  Date and time
                                  February 18, 2013, 10:21AM
                                  • Compared with what you seem to believe, he is very rational.
                                    Commenter
                                    Ross
                                     
                                    Location
                                    MALLABULA
                                     
                                    Date and time
                                    February 18, 2013, 12:56PM
                                • Ha Ha it's partially Abbotts fault
                                  That's the funniest thing i've heard today
                                  Do you think that we are so stupid that when Labor raises taxes we will think it will be good for us ?
                                  The money just goes to public sector wages nothing for anybody else
                                  Commenter
                                  Pato
                                   
                                  Location
                                  Date and time
                                  February 18, 2013, 10:23AM
                                  • To suggest Abbott must share the blame for the tax-stuff-up is simply absurd. The tax stuff-up has occurred because when it has comes to policy formation, the Gillard government has shown it is incapable of properly designing and implementing effective policies. Why? Because it is incompetent.
                                    Commenter
                                    Mervyn Sullivan
                                     
                                    Location
                                    Date and time
                                    February 18, 2013, 10:25AM
                                    • I gave you the benefit of the doubt and read your article Ross. No where did you explain why Abbott is in part responsible for the shambolic mining tax. It was possible that the design of the final tax was compromised by the need to pass parliament, but no such thing was explained or even suggested by you. So now I scratch my head and wonder if I should bother reading anything else written by Ross Gittins.
                                      Commenter
                                      DaveA
                                       
                                      Location
                                      Melbourne
                                       
                                      Date and time
                                      February 18, 2013, 10:27AM
                                      • What a farce to suggest this mess is somehow Abbott's fault.
                                        Ross, the Coalition voted against the mining tax.
                                        Go and blame Gillard, Swan, Oakshott, Windsor and the Greens, they made it happen,
                                        Commenter
                                        the lone gunmen
                                         
                                        Location
                                        The grassy knoll
                                         
                                        Date and time
                                        February 18, 2013, 10:34AM
                                        • The new tax has actually taken a lot more than indicated. However, instead of going to federal, the states soaked it up by increasing their own royalaties, therefore reducing the tax. We need to be clear - Federal Labor and their Independent mates have full control of both houses. They can do what they like. And they did. The tax went through with their own policy - just how Labor wanted it. The fact it blew up in their hand is their problem. Additionally, what sort of fool wants more taxes. The country under Howard managed their budget. This country under Labor are just absolutely hopeless. Its like putting a child in charge of a family budget. Gittins, it doesn't matter how you try to spin it, you're just making yourself look like a fool.
                                          Commenter
                                          Roden
                                           
                                          Location
                                          Date and time
                                          February 18, 2013, 10:35AM
                                          • Poor analogy with the GST, which replaced sales tax and was accompanied by income tax cuts. I.e a reform. The mining tax, by contract, is essentially an additional tax.
                                            Commenter
                                            Lando
                                             
                                            Location
                                            Bespin
                                             
                                            Date and time
                                            February 18, 2013, 10:35AM
                                            • What you did get right is that is was a massive stuff up to not release the Henry Report immediately. And it was a bigger stuff up (by the GOVT) to ignore 99% of it....
                                              There were SOME good ideas, but the original incarnation of the RSPT was simply expropriation, plus putting tax payers at risk during downturns, or if a project failed (of which there have been many)
                                              and then to rely on the reworked tax to pay for long term recurring promises..and use it to to fuel some half baked class war.....
                                              all this while the LNP has been in opposition.
                                              Commenter
                                              Enrico 
                                              Location
                                              Sydney
                                               
                                              Date and time
                                              February 18, 2013, 10:37AM
                                              • Let's together, fix this most worthwhile tax, to the benefit of all Australians.
                                                Commenter
                                                jjanelle
                                                 
                                                Location
                                                Date and time
                                                February 18, 2013, 10:42AM
                                                • People! Can I ask you to go back and read what Ross has to say again, and this time without the blinkers on.
                                                  His main point is that, with the exception of the GST, all major economic reform has only been possible because of bipartisan support. Such a comment is almost without controversy.
                                                  Ross then goes on to lay the blame for the Mining Tax fiasco squarely with those in the government who are primarily to blame; Rudd, Gillard and Swan. The only culpability he lays with Abbott is that , because he opposed the tax, Labor ran scared and cobbled together a dog's breakfast.
                                                  And somehow that is "...revisionist, pro-Labor junk"? Give me a break.
                                                  Commenter
                                                  geraldps
                                                   
                                                  Location
                                                  Sydney
                                                   
                                                  Date and time
                                                  February 18, 2013, 10:47AM
                                                  • "And it was Abbott's strength in the polls that made Gillard so anxious to square away the miners at any cost"
                                                    As a criticism of Abbot that is certainly original.
                                                    Also highly imaginative.
                                                    Just look what he made her do.
                                                    Commenter
                                                    ghl
                                                     
                                                    Location
                                                    Date and time
                                                    February 18, 2013, 10:48AM
                                                    • "The case for requiring the miners to pay a higher price for their use of the public's mineral reserves at a time of exceptionally high world prices (even now) is strong."
                                                      This is the crux of the issue here. You either believe in a portion of super profits being taxed to help Australia, or you'd prefer that big mining dictate the tax level they pay and all profits go to billionaires and mostly OS investors. Schools or super-yachts?
                                                      Ross has done a great job explaining how Labor stuffed up the implementation of this tax. BUT, the important thing to remember here is that Abbott will remove all MRRT and collect a guaranteed $0 in super profit tax. How many schools can we fund with $0? It's still a choice between a small step in the right direction and doing nothing*.
                                                      * I don't really believe that Abbott will do nothing. He'll go further to repay his billionaire mates for funding his run at PM. He'll let them have further concessions and let them bring in foreign workers etc. But as he's gone into hiding to increase his popularity and won't mention any 'policies' this is only opinion.
                                                      Commenter
                                                      QED
                                                       
                                                      Location
                                                      Date and time
                                                      February 18, 2013, 11:01AM
                                                      • It is difficult to see how things would have turned out any different had Tony Abbott supported the legislation, he hardly would have been invited to help draft the plan.
                                                        Attempting to assign blame to Tony Abbot in this matter is drawing a very long bow indeed.
                                                        Commenter
                                                        Jondough
                                                         
                                                        Location
                                                        Lane Cove
                                                         
                                                        Date and time
                                                        February 18, 2013, 11:08AM
                                                        • That's the point Jondough; Ross is staing the MRRT should have been supported by LNP, and changed to work better using their control in the senate. Instead they just outright opposed it, even though it was in the Henry review.
                                                          Commenter
                                                          Econorat
                                                           
                                                          Location
                                                          Sydney
                                                           
                                                          Date and time
                                                          February 18, 2013, 1:07PM
                                                      • Given the comments here, more money needs to be spent on education towit, the ability to read. I know the ability to translate the written word into knowledge has been falling across the first world ( and is a contributor to loss of competitiveness), but you can only hope that most of the contributors here are trolls. As to mathematics, it has long deserted these pages
                                                        Commenter
                                                        colin
                                                         
                                                        Location
                                                        melbourne
                                                         
                                                        Date and time
                                                        February 18, 2013, 11:12AM
                                                        • I am almost speechless at how Gitttins can possibly apportion some blame to Abbott for a tax that Gillard and Swan negotiated with 3 miners. Even for Fairfax and Gittins especially,, this is a bridge too far.
                                                          Commenter
                                                          GrazingGoat66
                                                           
                                                          Location
                                                          Perth
                                                           
                                                          Date and time
                                                          February 18, 2013, 11:16AM
                                                          • Come on Ross. Blaming Abbott for the poor design is a bit much. I'd remind everyone- you included - that Abbott has NEVER had a majority in the House of Reps (or Senate) since the 2010 election. Gillard and Swan were unable to persuade the Greens and independents about elements of the tax. The design fault is therefore their own. I'd also remind you Ross - as a journalist who has been a supporter of the ALP over a very long period - Labor faught tooth and nail against a GST when it suited them (even though Option C in the 1985 tax summit was for a consumption tax). After the 1993 Fightback election against Hewson Labor increased Wholesale Sales Taxes having argued during the campaign that a GST would be regressive. Their record is simply appalling.
                                                            Commenter
                                                            Publius
                                                             
                                                            Location
                                                            Canberra
                                                             
                                                            Date and time
                                                            February 18, 2013, 11:16AM
                                                            • Above normal profits should apply to the banking pillars, especially given that they are relatively risk free unlike the miners and guaranteed from failure by the Government. Once a tax is introduced on the governments logic it should apply to all companies with super normal profits across the board. In the calculations the exposure to risk should be given weighting when determining what is normally accepted profit.
                                                              Commenter
                                                              Alan
                                                               
                                                              Location
                                                              Sunshine Coast
                                                               
                                                              Date and time
                                                              February 18, 2013, 11:19AM
                                                              • I believe Ross Gittins may be on to something. People heading to work in Chelyabinsk, reported sightings of Tony Abbott and some scare campaign about the sky falling in. They then heard what sounded like an explosion, saw a bright light, and BOOM. Vladimir Putin is quoted as saying, 'noting Abbott's share of the blame isn't the point', but until I speak with Ross Gittins I am currently unable to say what is.
                                                                Commenter
                                                                LizardBooth
                                                                 
                                                                Location
                                                                Melbourne
                                                                 
                                                                Date and time
                                                                February 18, 2013, 11:22AM
                                                                • Thankyou, Ross.
                                                                  You are now one of very few analysts i read in this paper now, because of your balanced, rational attitude, and great clarity of expression.
                                                                  Commenter
                                                                  sally b
                                                                   
                                                                  Location
                                                                  perth
                                                                   
                                                                  Date and time
                                                                  February 18, 2013, 11:25AM
                                                                  • Whatever you do Ross don't lay the blame where it should be placed.
                                                                    Commenter
                                                                    eyeswideopen
                                                                     
                                                                    Location
                                                                    earth
                                                                     
                                                                    Date and time
                                                                    February 18, 2013, 11:33AM
                                                                    • The ultimate responsibility for failure of the mining tax rests squarely with Julia Gillard and Wayne Swan, who directly negotiated the deal with the three biggest mining companies. Tony Abbott, the Coalition, Federal Labor and small miners were excluded from the negotiations and the resultant political hype. The deal was supposed to bolster the political stocks of Gillard following Rudd's political assassination. Pure and simple.
                                                                      Swan and Gillard never reviewed the tax design in spite of industry and economic advice that the tax would never yield the predicted $10.6 billion, which was subsequently reduced by the Treasury to about $2 billion.
                                                                      How can Abbot be responsible for the tax design and outcome under these circumstances? Especially when Federal Labor has spent the predicted amount before knowing how much was going to be collected.
                                                                      You are correct to state that the tax is a mess. But, it is a mess created and implemented by Gillard, Swan and the Green-Labor-Independent alliance. Abbott and the rest of Australia were, and still are, on the sidelines awaiting the opportunity to correct this incompetent act.
                                                                      Commenter
                                                                      GerardJB
                                                                       
                                                                      Location
                                                                      Roseville
                                                                       
                                                                      Date and time
                                                                      February 18, 2013, 11:48AM
                                                                      • So Ross Gittins' simplistic analysis can be summed thus:
                                                                        Opposition representative with no executive power to blame for appalling Government decision(s).
                                                                        Truly deluded. But there were other analytical gems:
                                                                        "...It was fear of what Abbott would say..." So an elected government is scared of the Opposition?
                                                                        "...It was the success of Abbott and the miners' joint campaign against the tax..." Do remind us of how much the LNP Opposition personally spent on the ad campaign.
                                                                        "...And it was Abbott's strength in the polls that made Gillard so anxious to square away the miners at any cost and rush to an election..." Unmitigated rubbish.
                                                                        Abbott has now returned to strength in the polls...what is the excuse now?
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                                                                        Jay Santos
                                                                         
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                                                                        February 18, 2013, 11:49AM
                                                                        • This Abbott fella must be really awful. He seems to get the blame for everything.....
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                                                                          K-Man
                                                                           
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                                                                          Newcastle
                                                                           
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                                                                          February 18, 2013, 11:52AM
                                                                          • He is all powerful
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                                                                            Wisebear
                                                                             
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                                                                            February 18, 2013, 12:30PM
                                                                          • K, Man - Ross Gittins did not give him the blame for everything - (please read his article before you make so stupid an argument). He merely blames Abbott for what Abbott himself did.
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                                                                            Ross
                                                                             
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                                                                            MALLABULA
                                                                             
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                                                                            February 18, 2013, 12:55PM
                                                                        • Ross, it is unfortunate that you don't mention industrial relations reform as something BOTH sides of politics should be pursuing. You could argue that Workchoices went to far. However, in today's global economy, Australian companies and their workers need to be able to compete. Due to political scaremongering, IR reform now seems to be permanently off the table. Its a shame that the unions are so anti-change that they risk making their workers too inflexible and too expensive. We should not aim to be the world's cheapest workforce, but we should work cooperatively - governments, works and businesses - to improve productivity. Bring on micro economic reform!
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                                                                          All_good_names_taken
                                                                           
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                                                                          February 18, 2013, 11:55AM
                                                                          • Ross ..I agreee up to a point. BUT Abbott should not be supporting bad legislation. Along with asylum seeker policy, carbon tax and this fiasco (among others) I would be very angry if he did support them. Its a bit like saying I painted your house and you should be pleased , to which I reply yep, but you painted it purple with yellow spots not white as I asked.
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                                                                            dasher
                                                                             
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                                                                            February 18, 2013, 12:09PM
                                                                            • Thank you for our article. I stopped reading the telegraph some time ago for the balanced reporting of the SMH. You do the country a great service, a true patriot.
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                                                                              Scott Hartnett
                                                                               
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                                                                              Goulburn
                                                                               
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                                                                              February 18, 2013, 12:12PM
                                                                              • Now I have heard it all.
                                                                                Tony Abbot and the coalition are not in government, Labor are.
                                                                                So any failure is the governments fault, not the opposition.
                                                                                To be fair to Labor, you do have to work with the public servants you have
                                                                                and lets be honest except for the upper levels, they are public servants for a reason.
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                                                                                J Walker
                                                                                 
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                                                                                February 18, 2013, 12:20PM
                                                                                • The ALP had the numbers. The MRRT is their baby.
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                                                                                  steve of glasshouse
                                                                                   
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                                                                                  February 18, 2013, 12:33PM
                                                                                  • I see: so Abbott is to blame in the same way Djokovic is to blame when an opponent serves a double fault...
                                                                                    What a biased joke of a headline to be running.
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                                                                                    player1
                                                                                     
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                                                                                    February 18, 2013, 12:38PM
                                                                                    • player1,
                                                                                      Please explain how a game of tennis has anything to do with politics?
                                                                                      I'd be very interested, but i doubt you'll bother because there isn't any parallel.
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                                                                                      Econorat
                                                                                       
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                                                                                      Sydney
                                                                                       
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                                                                                      February 18, 2013, 1:04PM
                                                                                    • Well, you see Djokovic has a good return of serve. A weak serve is liable to be hit for a winner. This puts his opponent under pressure, or perhaps the opponent goes for too much... In any case, Ross Gittens is trying to blame Abbott for Gillards double fault by saying that she "feared what Abbott would say". She was "anxious" about his "strength" you see (according to Gittens) and "rushed" it, so it was all actually his fault....partially(!)
                                                                                      But I think she just doesn't have much of a game.
                                                                                      It's called an analogy. And thank you for your interest. Do you get it now?
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                                                                                      player1
                                                                                       
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                                                                                      February 18, 2013, 2:04PM
                                                                                  • Of course Abbott is to blame. He mesed up with Pink Batts, Education Revolution, Live Cattle Trade, Asylum Seekers, Captain Emad, Grocery Watch, Carbon Tax, Mining Tax, Flood Tax, Super Tax, Mathieson's digital finger speech .. too many to name. And this guy wants to become PM of Australia by being elected by the people!
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                                                                                    JoJo
                                                                                     
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                                                                                    Gladstone
                                                                                     
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                                                                                    February 18, 2013, 12:42PM
                                                                                    • The above illustration seems to have two reads:
                                                                                      1) Abbott & Gillard extracting & benefitting from the wealth generated by the mining industry our "Lucky" and generous Land gives us
                                                                                      2) Abbott & Gillard are digging their own political graves thanks to the many stuff-ups perpetrated by both over the years...
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                                                                                      majid
                                                                                       
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                                                                                      highgate hill
                                                                                       
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                                                                                      February 18, 2013, 12:47PM
                                                                                      • Why is there all this hand-wringing over the fact that bi-partisanship is rare? We have an adversarial political system and this is a good thing. The system calls for a contest of ideas that importantly protects our freedoms and keeps the government of the day on its toes. We don't want sweetheart deals between politicians. Rather, let the party that wins the battle of ideas get elected. That's fine and as it should be.
                                                                                        On the mining tax specifically the government's incompetence has deserved opposition. It is not mentioned enough that this mining tax is additional to the corporate taxes that the mining industry already pays to the Federal government and to the royalties that the industry pays to the states....who own the resources. For Abbott to say that this additional mining tax is yet another factor in making Australia less competitive internationally is a reasonable point to make. He may be right or he may be wrong but it is important that we have an Opposition to raise this. Rather than Ross Gittins telling Abbott to get behind flawed government policy, he should be explaining to us why he thinks this additional mining tax runs no risk of damaging the goose that we are banking on to lay more golden eggs in the future.
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                                                                                        AKW
                                                                                         
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                                                                                        Sydney
                                                                                         
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                                                                                        February 18, 2013, 12:50PM
                                                                                        • There is a certain irony that the people screeching loudest about the mining tax not raising enough revenue quickly enough (due to the initial ability of miners to discount their existing investment spending) are the same people screeching that we shouldn't have had a mining tax at all, and that it should be repealed in its entirety.
                                                                                          Make up your mind!
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                                                                                          Bob
                                                                                           
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                                                                                          Sydney
                                                                                           
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                                                                                          February 18, 2013, 1:08PM
                                                                                          • There was one man called Wayne Swan whom sat on the Henry Report, ignored all the recomendations, and then rolled out the original RSPT surprising his own department, the industry, the states, his ministerial colleages and the PM.
                                                                                            It was Swan whom backed the government into an 'emergency' taxpayer funded public relations war against the mining industry (that breached the party's own guidelines about government advertising) - which failed. It was Swan whom ignored advice from Ken Henry that there would be problems with Swan's version of the RSPT.
                                                                                            It was Swan whom gave bad advice to the PM and then supported his removal by the current PM. It was also Swan whom seems to have excluded Treasury officials and put himself in the negotiations with the big 3 mining companies that resulted in the MRRT, still without consulting and state governments.
                                                                                            It was Swan who presented this to parliament and got it through with the support of the Greens and Independants. When questioned - it was Swan whom was participating in a class warfare rhetoric diversion campaign, personally attacking people whom disagreed with his assertions i.e. Twiggy Forrest
                                                                                            It was Swan who promised that the MRRT revenue would pay for tax cuts, superannuation, roads or <insert any press release of government spending here>, it was Swan whom refused to release Treasury and ATO documentation with spurious reasoning, and it was Swan who stubbornly promised a budget surplus.
                                                                                            It is Swan whom has been the treasurer since 2007. Notice anything in common with all these events?
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                                                                                            MXCS1865
                                                                                             
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                                                                                            Broken Hill
                                                                                             
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                                                                                            February 18, 2013, 1:37PM
                                                                                            • Ah yes... of course! I see it so clearly now. The completely bungled, total failure of a tax is to be blamed on the man who vigorously opposed it. How foolish of me not to see this earlier. Abbott is to blame!
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                                                                                              Lorin Chapman
                                                                                               
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                                                                                              Carlton
                                                                                               
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                                                                                              February 18, 2013, 1:39PM
                                                                                              • Could someone explain to me the concept of "above-normal" profit?
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                                                                                                Greg
                                                                                                 
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                                                                                                Seaham
                                                                                                 
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                                                                                                February 18, 2013, 1:46PM
                                                                                                • Thanks Mike from Melbourne, I could not have said it better myself.
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                                                                                                  DXM
                                                                                                   
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                                                                                                  February 18, 2013, 1:57PM
                                                                                                  • Both Labor and the Liberals agreed on the so-called Hawke/Keating economic reforms because they were cherry picked from the Campbell Report which was instigated by the then Treasurer John Winston Howard. PM Fraser abandoned the reforms because of an up and coming election. The rest is history.
                                                                                                    Ross seems to read more in too that one off encounter than most people.
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                                                                                                    T Hedman
                                                                                                     
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                                                                                                    February 18, 2013, 2:07PM
                                                                                                    • Ross, with respect, you have made a poor assumption in your piece, and that is that the Coalition opposed the Mining Tax based on political expediency. When in fact the Coalition rallied against the tax because it goes against the very foundation of Liberal principal, and that is that the Rudd/Gillard government is attempting to punish fiscally a key sector of our economy for being "too successful". No federal Liberal government should ever support such a tax measure, and the only blame for it's failed implementation is those that created the tax, who in their desire to make a 'political problem' go away, installed a tax that fails to deliver any of the revenue that they promised. One thing that you can rest assured is that, upon election September 14, this insipid tax shall be gone, and replaced by policies that promote investment in our nation, not one's that discourage it.
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                                                                                                      Randal
                                                                                                       
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                                                                                                      February 18, 2013, 2:13PM
                                                                                                      • To be fair to Ross, affording the article the title of "Abbott must share to blame for tax stuff-up" probably misrepresents the bulk of the article. Nonetheless, attempts in the closing paragraphs to apportion blame to Abbott for the rank incompetence of Rudd/Gillard/Swan in negotiating a tax they themselves didn't understand is embarrassing. Ross seems at one point to be blaming Abbott for his "strength in the polls" and the pressure this put on Gillard. Ridiculous.,,,
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                                                                                                        Gegsy
                                                                                                         
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                                                                                                        February 18, 2013, 2:21PM
                                                                                                        • Ross I have heard of a poor workman blaming his tools, but blaming the opposition is a new one. While you are at it Ross, how was Tony Abbott and the opposition responsible for the boarder protection failure or the BER and NBN blow outs. From what I recall the opposition opposed all three. Was it because they did not oppose strongly enough?
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                                                                                                          morph
                                                                                                           
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                                                                                                          Sydney
                                                                                                           
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                                                                                                          February 18, 2013, 2:28PM
                                                                                                          • The first sentence in the last 3 lines of this article says it all, so why the headline?
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                                                                                                            Say It Again
                                                                                                             
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                                                                                                            Vermont South
                                                                                                             
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                                                                                                            February 18, 2013, 2:29PM
                                                                                                            • I blame bad economic/political reporters and whoever does not conform to my personnel political point of view.
                                                                                                              Seriously global warming is to blame
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                                                                                                              Nador
                                                                                                               
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                                                                                                              Sydney
                                                                                                               
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                                                                                                              February 18, 2013, 2:31PM
                                                                                                              • Now let me get this right! The LNP and Abbott supporters commentating here have never believed there should be a mining tax, still don't think it's a fair tax and yet are screaming and sneering because it hasn't raised enough money. If they feel so strong about it do they believe Abbott should not only be promising to repeal the tax but should also promise to give it all back to the miners? Really!
                                                                                                                You're a 'breath of freshair' Ross in an otherwise mediocre media that seems to prefer to write about gossip rather than analysing policies. I think if the media coverage, opposition tactics and debate we've experienced over the past three years becomes the norm, then it doesn't bode well for any future reforms and progress of this country.
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                                                                                                                olive
                                                                                                                 
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                                                                                                                sydney
                                                                                                                 
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                                                                                                                February 18, 2013, 2:45PM


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