Tuesday 28 November 2017

I refer to Julie Nathan and ECAJ!!!








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I refer to the pathetic article by Julie Nathan in The Australian on Monday 27/11/17 
See item 

 2 above.

See on - line letters in The Australian 27 - 28/11/17  ''letters 1 -  2 above.
See that the Oz censored my on line comment: they have done this before!

Finally see that the ECAJ has 'history'!

THE ECAJ SHOULD SACK WERTHEIM AND JULIE NATHAN AS WELL:Danny Lamm should reclaim his old job!

Geoff Seidner

THIS IS AND WAS ECAJ!!!! by gs

On 25 Aug 2017 10:13 AM, "Geoff Seidner" <g87@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
 
 
From: g87
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:16 AM
Subject: Fw: Dear Danny, Peter Wertheim, Julie Nathan of ECAJ
 
 
 
From: g87
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 2:28 PM
Subject: Dear Danny, Peter Wertheim, Julie Nathan of ECAJ
 
CONFIDENTIAL

Dear Danny, Peter Wertheim, Julie Nathan of ECAJ
and Phillip Chester ZFA, Tzvi Fleischer and Colin R of AIJAC
Please pass on to Sam T of Zionist Council.


CC to I Leibler, Romy Leibler, Akiva Hamilton – Shurat Hadin

Shalom people!
STRENGTH TO YOUR ARM, AKIVA HAMILTON!

Re the ‘TO’ area above: I submit for your respective websites the article I had written some time ago.
Let there be no doubt that you will NOT publish it.

And I tell you that in terms of pure unadulterated humbug – nothing beats the last paragraph of today’s The Australian:
[I pasted it to a semi – secure blog, rarely used by me]

http://cognatebmpaz.blogspot.com.au/2013/11/anti-semitism-on-increase-oz-2811.html
Ms Nathan also spoke of the need for legal recourse to tackle vilification and hate, citing sections of the Racial Discrimination Act the government has pledged to repeal.

I refer to the scenario of legal recourse, of course.

Please be careful in responding: it may be better to ignore me for reasons not obvious

Kindly publish my essay without smart – alec comments – and we will see how many people support your stance.

Should you wish to make any comments – any of you are invited to do so in writting.

As an aside – I do wonder why the ‘silent majority’of our people have remained silent. You are challenged to comment and / or publish my article to enable those moribund of mind to understand what a con – job you have pulled!

Shalom
Geoff Seidner

As an aside: I recall Mr I Leibler wrote an article decimating the lamentable anti Israel writings of Jonathan Sacks in the AJN – 10 or so years ago. It was the only one.....
We will see whether he has the courage to lacerate you guys named in the ‘To’ area above
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GOOD   ON   YOU,    SHURAT   HA   DIN!!
I am saddened that the usually esteemed ECAJ and other major Israel – supporting groups – ZFA and the Zionist Council of Victoria have not appreciated that their late October attempts at undermining  the incipient legal action by Shuarat Hadin the Israeli Law Centre against the determined ‘boycotteers’,  are dreadfully ill advised.
There will be a directions hearing commencing in the Federal Court on Wednesday 27 November in the Federal Court. I refer to The Australian: November 25, 2013 which also correctly advises  that:
‘’Several prominent Australian Jewish academics -- including some who oppose BDS – manifestly back his [Lynch, Rees and University of Sydney] right to support it as an expression of academic freedom, and the Executive Council of Australian Jewry has disowned Shurat HaDin's action.’’

Am I reading this correctly?
It saddens me that The Oz is correct. I posit that basis the article in JWire and ECAJ website that our leading people resent action taken by Shurat Ha Din - and  in the process fail to realize they somehow also manage to effectively support the BDS! Well may they claim that they oppose the BDS. It is meaningless codswallop to so claim and yet do everything to undermine the legal process which the Australian Jewish organizations should have started themselves.
And it gets worse - much worse.

I understand they feel diminished because they did not act earlier before S.HaDin shamed them with action.
It is expected that they will have disparate excuses for what I regard as almost essentially treacherous action on their [ECAJ] part. Arguably to justify their own unmasterly inactivity. Note carefully furthermore that in supporting boycotters’ rights under the aegis of ‘’academic freedom’’ – they plainly humiliate themselves? Non? It is plainly astonishing.
I [GS] asked these Jewish mainstream organizations early November to explain the inarguable ‘’PATHETIC SITUATION THAT WILL POSSIBLY ENSURE
THAT THE JUDGE ADJUDICATING  WILL BE AWARETHAT THE ENTIRE JEWISH / ZIONIST BUREAUCRACY SEEMS TO BE WORKING
AGAINST SHURAT HADIN, TO OUR MUTUAL DISADVANTAGE!!
Exactly whose side are you guys on – I continued.
Or is it do that not think things through!?
Surely if you cannot / will not help - why hinder?

What do you intend to say when your grandchildren ask:  What

did you do in the war against the anti - Israel scourge of
this decade’’?
 There was no answer to this: indeed one of the 'troika' essentially admitted I
was right.

How could it come to this? Our people using the favoured line of our enemies, for goodness sakes!
 Any or all of the troika could have done what Shurat Ha Din did. It begged to be done because primary or secondary boycotts are arguably illegal basis either commercial law or Racial Vilification law. Which the BDS plainly comprimizes. You guys should have chosen your weapons – instead you did the most demonstrable example of mealy – mouthed inaction dressed up as jealousy.
Inverted humour attempted.
But they did worse than nothing.
Instead they  publically criticised / vitiated Hamilton’s action. Certainly giving
oxygen to our enemies! Can I put in a few more exclamation marks!!?
And putting it in the public domain – in spite of the fact that action against inarguable defacto Jew haters will have had greater prospects if it was  not ‘kiboshed’ with self – serving selfishness.
Now I have put this in the public domain myself – and appreciating that our enemies are reading this as well. You have forced my hand. Shame also on all of our
people who have allowed this to pass without comment. I have watched the cavalcade of nothingness for many weeks – pardon the oxymoronic insult.
Maybe in some sort of rational world the judge will contemplate my humble words and accept that the ECAJ et al are simply wrong. It is rare – but it is possible for mainstream Jewish entities to be 'misguided'. Desperately wrong and pathetically misguided. I have never seen anything like this inane situation that The Australian and Shurat HaDin have been the only ones to stand up against the BDS promoters and our local organizations do matters adverse to Israel's interest
To those Jews who espouse that theirs may be a viable legal opinion – they  should realize they are helping  the same people who were quoted as railing against the London Declaration on anti semitism. [see below] Even if they are proven to be right – which is far from certain -  it is irresponsible to do what they have done.
Note Sydney University’s Peace Studies Prof. Rees on the London Declaration signed by all responsible parties:   ‘’ it is childish, thoughtless but easily populist.’’ 
This is what Rees wrote: Criticising Jew Hatred is ‘’childish’’! The Australian 15/5/13http://cognatesocialistdystopia.blogspot.com.au/2013/11/hhhhantisemitism-but-easily-populist.html
And never mind the self – fulfilling prophecy which our  Zionist organizations had chutzpah and ineptmodus in setting into motion. Devoid of notion. I wrote some poetry many years ago which when found will aptly designate this farce for what it is; in non – post modernist poetry.

It is my understanding that holding ‘them’ to account is best achieved by threats  and real world  action through the courts: there has to be an understanding who
one is doing business with.
Well - may the Executive Director Peter Wertheim in his article in Jwire 31/10 ‘’believe that the most appropriate and effective way....through public discourse’’
Where is the evidence that anything anyone has said in civilized discourse has had any effect?
Au contraire – the University of Sydney have a Sturt Rees who on 15 May this year was quoted by The Oz as being against governments signing the London Declaration against anti semitism!
This is how far our enemies have taken it: who would have believed a few short years ago that 'they' would insist that railing against AS as ''childish thoughtless and easily populist''

Note Wertheim’s waffle in his public pronouncement in seeking justification for his BDS stance in nation states signing the document is strained and and inarguably absurd.. 

See below: it is self - contradictory tripe to suggest that the BDS promoters are allowed to have their day in court'' - and simultaneously vitiate same  via suggesting they are against the action action to bring it to court is ''are opposed to litigation if it is pursued merely as a political tactic.”

Excuse me? This is ethereal nonsense to invert reality by criticising via the ‘political’ moniker.


Excuse me Mr Wertheim - exactly how can it be anything but ''politics'?

Maybe he can pursue legal action without subject matter? That would eliminate the political scenario!

Pray explain what you say here: exactly how would you describe your comments: political, non? Do you resile from making political statements in
favour of protecting Israel against the BDS? Exactly what do you do during the day? Support a motherhood version of politics?
I suggest you get real as they say in the non – classicist world.It is all too absurd for serious discussion: I sometimes wonder how we won so many Nobel Prizes.

The Syney University are the source of the infamous Sydney Peace Prize.... with infamous list of anti – Israel winners. They select them for their anti Israel stance - shamelessly.
And our people select disingenuous verbiage as above and below to harm ourselves.

And the Vice Chancellor of Sydney Uni has plainly never had any intention of doing anything about Rees or the chief boycoteer Lynch, the Professor of the Peace and Conflict Studies Centre at University of Sydney. I did not realize that their much – parodied nomenclature was still extant.
Furthermore the idea to take viable legal action against those who would bedevil Israel is necessary. Surely the legal system will allow defence against evil incantations.
Contemplate what the gay or some entity  turned against gays or Muslims? It would result in proverbial war or worse. And  the ECAJ merely wants to continue  asking them nicely to  cease and desist?
Surely legal action compares favourably with ECAJ fatuous attempts at ‘’exposure... its deceptive and sometimes racist rhetoric, methods...’’
Where has it got you, Peter W? In my opinion there are two irrefutable ideas in this realm:  only  declaration of war or threat of legal action has ever been heeded by those who care not for civil discourse.
Who is your hero – Churchill  or Chamberlain? The analogy is appropriate. And if you want examples of viable real – world action via the courts compared with
waffled, plaintive bleating – tell me where have you seen examples of success with ‘’through public discourse.’’ ?
I repeat:

  • Look at Rees’ comment about the London anti semitism document : ‘’childish, thoughtless but easily populist.’’
  • How misguided is the modus vivendi that ‘’....but we are opposed to litigation if it is pursued merely as a political tactic.”
But now we come to the arguable ultimate: Start Rees and Lynch have tried the astonishing and got away with it to date: they effectively refused access to the
Sir Zelman Cowen Scholarship to a Jew who was plainly helping the Palestinians!
And of course Sir Zelman Cowen was the highly respected Jewish Governor – General!
The Scholarship was / is being run by a Jewess Sue Freedman-Levy who has obviously not spoken up about this.
Could someone help me understand how the Peace and ‘Conflated’ studies Centre through Lynch has the authority to control the Sir Zelman Cowen Scholarship?
I do not want to call this chutzpah – because this minimizes it somehow.
If only for this I wish Shurat Hadin well. Maybe one day I will see an article in mainstream media – not just JWire – that openly wonders at how professional Israel – Haters can  refuse a ‘peacenik’ Jew access to the Sir Zelman Cowan scholarship.
Never mind all the other matters in this epistle.
And maybe someone at the ECAJ will admit that theirs was not a good idea!

Geoff Seidner
13 Alston Grove East St Kilda 3183
03 9525 9299
03 9 525 9290


“The ECAJ believes that the most appropriate and effective way to combat the boycott campaign is to expose its deceptive and sometimes racist rhetoric, methods and aims public scrutiny. In our view, attempts to suppress the campaign through litigation are inappropriate and likely to be counter-productive. It is for this reason that the ECAJ has had no involvement in the action brought by Shurat HaDin and will continue to fight the boycott campaign through public discourse. If any individuals believe they have been adversely affected by racially discriminatory policies and practices of the Centre for Peace and Conflict Studies they are entitled to have their day in court, but we are opposed to litigation if it is pursued merely as a political tactic.”

On 15/5 Professor S Rees of Sydney University thought the signing by more than 40 Parliamentarians of The London Declaration against anti semitism was ‘’childish, thoughtless but easily populist.’’
Throughout it all we have the Vice Chancellor  Spence seemingly vitiating the boycott – yet allowing it to be promoted at his University!
    The Executive Council of Australian Jewry has issued a statement detailing their reasons as to why they are not aligned with Israeli Human Rights group Shurat HaDin’s move to litigate against a NSW professor who advocates BDS against Israeli academics.
Peter Wertheim
Peter Wertheim
In a prepared statement, executive director of The Executive Council of Australian Jewry, Peter Wertheim states: “The campaign to boycott academic and other contacts with Israel is repugnant to all who sincerely seek a just and lasting resolution of the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians,” said Peter Wertheim, the Executive Director of the Executive Council of Australian Jewry (ECAJ). “The path to a just peace is through mutual engagement, not vilification. Contacts between Israeli and Palestinian academics should be encouraged and facilitated by their Australian and other colleagues, not stigmatised.”
The ECAJ has long been a vocal critic of the anti-Israel boycott campaign. “The boycott campaign is a calculated attempt to demonise, isolate and ultimately dismantle Israel through the distortion of international law and human rights. The hate-filled protests outside Max Brenner chocolate shops and the ill-considered scheme of Marrickville Council to boycott Israeli products at a cost of millions of dollars to its rate-payers, which was subsequently abandoned, have rightly been condemned and derided by most Australians. All major parties including the Greens, except for a handful of their MP’s, disavow the anti-Israel boycott campaign” Wertheim said.
“The ECAJ believes that the most appropriate and effective way to combat the boycott campaign is to expose its deceptive and sometimes racist rhetoric, methods and aims public scrutiny. In our view, attempts to suppress the campaign through litigation are inappropriate and likely to be counter-productive. It is for this reason that the ECAJ has had no involvement in the action brought by Shurat HaDin and will continue to fight the boycott campaign through public discourse. If any individuals believe they have been adversely affected by racially discriminatory policies and practices of the Centre for Peace and Conflict  Studies they are entitled to have their day in court, but we are opposed to litigation if it is pursued merely as a political tactic.”
Asked whether he believes that all criticisms of Israel are antisemitic, Wertheim answered “No. Israel is a vibrant pluralist democracy and its citizens – Jews, Bedouin, Druze and other Israeli Arabs – are often its most incisive critics. But it is also false to suggest that no criticisms of Israel are antisemitic. There is clearly an overlap, as has been acknowledged by the European Agency for Fundamental Rights, the United Kingdom All-Party Parliamentary Inquiry into Antisemitism, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe and the members of pa

BDS Litigation “inappropriate” says ECAJ » J-Wire

Oct 31, 2013 - In a prepared statement, executive director of The Executive Council of Australian Jewry, Peter Wertheim states: “The campaign to boycott ...
rliament from many countries, including Australia, who have signed the London Declaration on Combating Antisemitism and the Ottawa Protocol on Combating Antisemitism.”
Kindly note that essentially there is no need for me to send emails of my ‘works’ to most people on my lists: you need merely the links below.


I will send emails from time to time for disparate reasons.
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Geoff Seidner
Tel: 03 9525 9299..... 03 9525 9290

Alternative email: geoffseidner@gmail.com
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From: g87
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 11:54 AM
Subject: Background to ARTICLE FOR JWIRE!! Good on you, Shurat Ha Din!

Editor Jwire
Hello Benjamin
LINKS IMPORTANT BELOW!
Regards
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Shurat HaDin's complaint about BDS - Scribd 

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Don’t suggest you join the comments – they will just out swamp you with their blind bias and hatred.
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Attacks on Jews signal ,,,by Julie Nathan... ECAJ RESEARCH OFFICER

Attacks on Jews signal a worrying threat to all civilised society

In the aftermath of the Holocaust it was hoped that expressions of murderous Jew-hatred would be considered so odious as to be a thing of the past.
The Holocaust, the deliberate and planned killing of every Jewish man, woman and child the Nazis and their collaborators could get their hands on, was a seminal event for humanity.
It demonstrated that although human beings have the potential to rise to all kinds of lofty heights, there is also no limit to the moral depths to which they may sink.
In far too many European minds, Jews were not seen as thinking, feeling fellow human beings but as objectified examples of an ­impersonal “type”. The concept of “the Jew” became the repository into which Jew-haters projected their personal insecuri­ties, cravenness, misanthropic ­impulses and self-loathing.
Fast forward to the next ­century and another continent. ­Despite the best hopes, and years of education about the evils of ­racism, incitement to murder Jews has been resurrected, even in Australia, which has no history at all of official persecution of Jews.
The Executive Council of Australian Jewry, the peak representative body for Australian Jews, publishes an annual report on anti-Semitism in Australia, which documents anti-Semitic incidents.
The latest report, just ­released, ­reveals that in the year to September there were 230 anti-Semitic ­incidents reported, a 9.5 per cent increase.
The most prominent change has been the rise in extreme right-wing activity.
This new development has been predominantly through the formation of a neo-nazi group Antipodean Resistance in October last year. It originated in Melbourne but has spread to most states.
The activities of Antipodean Resistance are primarily of propaganda and recruitment. To this end, members of the group have been heavily involved in putting up thousands of Nazi swastika stickers and thousands of anti-Jewish, anti-homosexual and pro-Nazi posters, especially at universities, public places and in areas with numbers of Jewish residents.
These posters are not just run-of-the-mill agitprop. Two Antipodean Resistance posters demand “Legalise the execution of Jews” and call for the killing of homosexuals.
The posters have graphic images of shooting Jews and homosexuals in the head.
Other Antipodean Resistance posters vilify and demonise Jews, homosexuals, Chinese students and non-white immigrants.
Where has this resurrection of Nazi murder rhetoric come from?
During the past few years there has been a steady rise in far-right political activity in Europe and North America.
From proscribed neo-nazi terrorist group National Action in Britain (which Antipodean Resistance looks to for inspiration), to the mass rallies in Charlottesville, Virginia in August (in which a protester was killed by a far-right activist), and rallies in Poland of up to 60,000 ultranationalists (with many calling “Jews out!”) this month, neo-nazi and other extreme right groups are becoming increasingly active and emboldened.
Many blame US President Donald Trump, whose rhetoric and behaviour have indeed at times condoned and encouraged racist, sexist and bigoted sentiment.
Yet on the other side of the political spectrum British Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn also has shamefully tolerated and been accused of condoning anti-Semitism among the far left and Islamist groups he has courted.
However, the deterioration in the standards of discourse in ­conventional politics is a mere symptom of a deeper malaise ­simmering within Western ­society, brought about by growing technological disruption, economic inequality, job insecurity and xenophobia, and a contracting middle class.
The tra­ditional ­social consensus about our democratic institutions and values is being undermined in the process. Intolerance, bigotry, ­hatred and violence increasingly rise through the cracks in the bedrock of society.
The Jewish community bears the brunt of this fracturing of ­society.
Because of the high incidence of physical attacks against Jews and Jewish communal buildings during the past three decades, and continuing threats in Australia, Jewish places of worship, schools, communal organisations and community centres need, for ­security reasons, to ­operate under the protection of armed guards, high fences, metal detectors, CCTV cameras and the like.
The Jewish community is the only community within Australia that has to live with such high ­levels of security.
The necessity is recognised by Australia’s law ­enforce­ment agencies and arises from the entrenched and protean nature of anti-Semitism in Western and Muslim culture.
As history has so often shown, when people can target Jews with impunity, in the street, in institutions or anywhere else, then sooner or later other sectors of society also will be targeted. Jews are said to be the “canary in the coalmine”.
The devastation wrought by racism and racially motivated violence may start with the Jews but it never ends with the Jews.
Julie Nathan is research officer for the Executive Council of Australian Jewry and author of the ECAJ anti-Semitism report.