Sunday, 31 December 2017

PVO 12....DECEMBER 30 2013 'enjoy...and Brandis'


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From: Geoff Seidner <myemail99@optusnet.com.au>
Date: Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 9:28 AM
Subject: dec 30... Hi Peter.... George Brandis has responded to you in today’s The Oz.
To: geoffseidner@gmail.com


 
 
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 3:28 PM
To: g87
Subject: Re: Hi Peter.... George Brandis has responded to you in today’s The Oz.
 
Hi Geoff
Enjoy your fun, as I enjoy the many many benefits of what I do (and love to do). Currently relaxing on holidays.
All the best
Peter

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On 30/12/2013, at 3:24 PM, "g87" <g87@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
Hi Peter,
Please note that George Brandis has responded to you in today’s The Oz. It was inevitable. The A - G is of course very generous to you    in his carefully considered item.
I am of course not so encumbered with trying to optimise my electoral popularity VS the need to respond to your pretty outrageous efforts.
Fortunate perhaps is that most people are on hols.
 
You should contemplate my heroic incipient efforts. I have lots of interests – and have tried to invent a means of stopping time.
You will see my response reasonably soon.
 
Note also that Catalaxy has also taken the ‘parody weapon’ to you. See below.
Do you intend a decko at the comments?
 
Other salient links will be posted as convenient during the silly season; we are regularly taking days off to be with the grandchildren and whatever else we pick to relax with.
 
I somehow hope we all continue to have fun at your expense.
As a further aside: you should really not continue this farce in yet another column.
Sadly – you may just do that.
 
Regards
Geoff
 
 
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:11 AM
Subject: [New post] PVOs watch list for 2014
 

New post on Catallaxy Files

PVOs watch list for 2014

by Sinclair Davidson
Peter van Onselen has put out a pollie watch list for 2014. So he has 5 on the up and 5 on the down. It is the on the down choices that I'm interested in.
First he nominates Wayne Swan - but Swan has more or less disappeared from public life, if not actually the Parliament, when Julia Gillard lost office. PVO does suggest that Swan might be snapped up by the private sector. Surely not. The only people who could credibly employ him would be some union dominated super fund.
PVO also nominates the shadow ministry.
The collective of ageing shadow ministers who should have retired when the Labor government lost. It is remarkable how many former ministers past their prime stayed on to hog frontbench spots which should have gone to the likes of Nick Champion, Stephen Jones and Ed Husic. Expect a few to fall away next year, as they realise opposition ain't much fun.
This is correct. These are the people to watch because much the same thing happened after 2007. The then Coalition shadow ministry had the same problem. But as it became clearer that opposition was going to be a short term proposition the older members didn't retire and make space but hung on there. If the now shadow ministry starts retiring then that reveals their expectations of returning to government.
So far all good.
Then:
George Brandis or Christopher Pyne: Neither probably will fall from grace, but both have had poor starts as ministers. 2014 will either see them find their feet, or the mistakes will pile up and Abbott will need to act. The former is more likely for both men, but they will be closely scrutinised next year.
on Christopher Pyne I agree. While I think dumping Gonski would have been good policy, he completely fluffed the implementation.
What of George Brandis? I can't see him being in the same category as Pyne. I don't perceive him as having had a poor start. So I asked PVO on twitter what the story is. PVO nominates three areas where Brandis is vulnerable. Entitlements, hypocrisy, and not abolishing the Human Rights Commission.
So we're in full agreement on not abolishing the Human Rights Commission.
It is hard to get too excited about the entitlements thing. We covered it here at the Cat at the time and it is disgraceful and politicians should be paid in cash and all that. Okay - but I'm not convinced that Brandis is uniquely vulnerable in this area. Ultimately there is no real political cost in this area. If criminality come be demonstrated then it is a different story - but exploiting vague rules may cause a temporary stink and excite journalists and bloggers but I doubt there is any long-term cost here.
Then PVO and Brandis have been exchanging barbs in The Australian over hypocrisy and the meaning of partisanship. That is pure self-indulgence on PVOs part. Nobody cares. More importantly that isn't the risk Brandis faces in 2014.
The risk Brandis faces in 2014 is that the political left succeeds in discrediting Tim Wilson. I have no doubt they will give it a red-hot go. If they succeed an already overly cautious government will become more cautious. If they fail the Abbott government may acquire more of a backbone.
Sinclair Davidson | December 29, 2013 at 11:11 am | URL: http://wp.me/pScng-cz2
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Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:41 PM
To: g87
Subject: Re: Hello again PVO!
 
Good luck with it Geoff, do get back to me when you have some substantial and cogent words completed. I look forward to reading it if you manage to follow through on this commitment.
Regards
Peter

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On 29/12/2013, at 2:31 PM, "g87" <g87@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
Hello Peter
Congratulations,
You have in your two recent articles given me enough incentive to base a major essay, thesis, monograph or even a book on the subject of 
MEDIA MANIPULATION AND INSULTS TO THE INTELLIGENCE.
 
I may change the nomenclature – but methinks some people may recognize that it will be based on the
WINTROP PROFESSOR OF JOURNALISM AT WA UNI.
 
I will send you advance copies as I write it: you may be prepared to comment on salient segments.
Oh – by the way – I will try to find room for Emmerson: remember him?
His article is right next to yours in Saturday’s Oz.
 
Yours Sincerely
Geoff Seidner
 
 
 
 
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