Monday 9 March 2015

Another lot of C Glick letters


  • Indeed we have no other choice.
    If this doesn't work, a ME coalition will be formed against Iran - ME nations threatened by Iran will again have no choice.
    Unfortunately, in the new situation, this ME coalition against Iran will go against the Obama-Khamenei deal.
    In fact, as this deal is the unique possibility of a foreign policy success for a President who is eager to prove his Nobel was well deserved, it effectively puts Obama in the hands of Khamenei. Khamenei can at any future time make further request while threatening to cancel the deal - thus putting Obama in an awkward situation.
    The Sunset clause: If one allows Iran to get WMDs in 10 years, why do anything dramatic if they go for it in 7 years? In 3 years? After all, the obvious counter argument is:
    "Iran already has the option to get WMDs in a few years, so why making a big fuss today anyway?"
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        How many Israeli Nukes does it take to wipe out Iran and where are they located? Or is Ms. Glick claiming Israel cannot create a nuclear deterrent?
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            And those Nukes are for the Big Satan (USA) and not the Little Satan (Israel). It should be our responsibility and not Israel's to take them out.
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                Ivg, Iran's nuclear facilities are underground - much, much more difficult to locate and to destroy than the Syrian or the Iraqi nuclear reactors that Israel destroyed in the 1980s.
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                  M.A.D. doesn't work with Muslims who are born and bred to revere Death and Martyrdom and who declare that they love death as much as Israelis love life.
                  Islam breeds psychopaths !!!
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                    American Jewish liberals have no concerns about Israel security. From the outset, Obama appeared to be anti Israel and pro radical Islam movements. Yet, influential american liberal Jews gave their support to Obama politically and financially. Obama is a master of deception, which Netanyahu should expose to the American people, that a deal with the Mullahs of Iran means a catastrophic nuclear terror event in the US too.
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                        Jews are sadly some othe worst anti-Semites.
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                            American Jewish liberals are fat cats basking in the sun. They have their food troughs full, their water bowls full, a soft cushion to sleep on and no barking dogs threatening them. Some of them escaped the clutches of the Nazis and Muslims in Europe during WWII and some of these families have been here since the War for American Independence. They adhere to the religion as it suits them and ignores their roots when it suits them. They have no concerns for the Nation of Israel or its future. It doesn't matter to them. There are many Jews who are faithful either through Christian beliefs or through Judaism and they are supportive of Israel but I am afraid they are the exception rather than the rule.
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                                Your are right, unfortunately, the Liberals are a big problem. They see everything in terms of Right vs. Left instead of Right vs. Wrong, Truth against blatant lies!! Most of all this antisemitism is based on the lie of the "Protocol of the Elders of Zion."
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                                Dave, my wife and I didn't make that mistake and tried to convince everyone we know of the truth of your words. Hopefully, even prayerfully...they NOW understand what they put into the WH. 
                                Maybe...just maybe they learned their lesson. 
                                We all hope so. And we thank you for your post Dave. 
                                sanjosemike
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                                  Caroline, thank you for excellent column. People of Israel should know this especially now. To see inexcusable,anti-Israel behavior of Herzog-Livni block
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                                      What is not a bad deal with Iran?
                                      The only not bad deal is the one that does not leave a chance for Iran to have nuclear bomb.
                                      Only military option can do that.
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                                          I hope Netanyahu has something to expose about Obama in this speech, that would be both funny and extraordinarily embarrassing for the joke of a president that currently rules the USA. Perhaps an infographic detailing how Obama has dealt with Islamists during his tenure plotted against How Islamists have prospered during the same period.
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                                            He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
                                            He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people. 
                                            He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
                                            He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands. 
                                            He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
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                                              He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of 
                                              Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
                                              He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
                                              He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
                                              He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
                                              For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
                                              For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
                                              For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
                                              For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: 
                                              For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
                                              For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
                                              For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
                                              For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
                                              For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
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                                                He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
                                                He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
                                                He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only. 
                                                He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. 
                                                He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
                                                He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
                                                He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
                                                He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
                                                He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
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                                                  Transmute to the firey phoenix.
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                                                      Most excellent analysis...
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                                                          As I understand the situation, Iran is now in noncompliance with the conditions set for negotiation: Iran has forbidden inspections of sites of interest. Why, then, are talks continuing?
                                                          Among the P5+1 is Russia. Russia is now engaged in devouring sections of the Ukraine and is, itself, being sanctioned by other members of the P5+1. Why should Israel trust such a pariah? Why are the other members of the group willing to have Russia involved as long as it is behaving contrary to international law?
                                                          ... farcical ...
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                                                              The talks are continuing because it is one of the core aims of the presidency of the enemy of humankind to ensure 1. Persia acquiring nuclear weapons, 2. By using them they murder every single Jew in Israel, with no matter how many Arab deaths, 3, plant the seed of all embracing nuclear war on Earth, 4. Bring about the downfall of the West, in partical the US.
                                                              His there to see for all steps are not resulting from unsuccessful policy, errors, or lack of experience as usually explained due to spelling out the obvious sounds too radical, exaggerated or such that few dare to spell out. Those steps are consistent with malevolance only. His aim is deliberate wrecking led by some kind of perverted ideology of his own. We are facing what Christians call the Antichrist.
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                                                                I happen to think that the Obama administration is right and Nethanyahu ( not to mention the creepy Caroline Glick) are way off on this one.
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                                                                    I suppose you have difficulty recognizing genius....the creepy one is obama...and his administration..the genius is Caroline Glick because she is so perspective and is able to analyze things so rationally.
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                                                                      Ms. Glick, there is no 4,000 year Jewish history. If we wish to be generous, there may be a 3,500 year Jewish history but realistically it's more like 3,200 years which is still quite respectable compared with the history of most other nations. But, then, hyperboles are your style; you can't help it.
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                                                                          She is excellent, bordering perfection. Certainly extremely great. You are right, however, about the number of years you cite, albeit that is here less than a side issue.
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                                                                              She has the potential to becoming a great journalist. She certainly possesses some original ideas, rare among journalist. If only she would give up her shrill and strident ways of expressing herself .
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                                                                                  That is a matter of taste. You don't like her style. I do. It makes her unique among those you class her to belong. In my view she is not in the first place a journalist. She is a prophet(ess) or if you prefer a political scientist. Her style is in harmony with her content, the message. That is what counts.
                                                                                  At a more general note I am totally against any notion of only one or two obligatory for all styles being acceptable. The aim to uniformize in the modern world is an attack on personal freedom, imagination. One does not aim to become a machine.
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                                                                                  If it is an exaggeration it would be by 20% according to your numbers, incorrect perhaps, but certainly unworthy of a demon.
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                                                                                      I am not sure what you mean by "unworthy of a demon". What I was really trying to point out is that Ms. Glick's readers, apparently, crave exaggeration and she is just too happy to oblige them. It's a pity because she could become such a good journalist if only she gave up on her hyperboles.
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                                                                                          It wasn't hyperbole. It is closer to 4200 years since Avraham would have bought the cave makhpaylah. Which 1000 years was there no jew/Israeli living within the historical borders of Israel? And although I don't reckon a Pulitzer today means what it used to, when were you awarded one or the Israeli equivalent?
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                                                                                              Avraham's birth was in the year 1948 in the Jewish calendar (easy to remember--the same year as Israel's rebirth in the secular calendar). That's 3827 years ago. 
                                                                                              The purchase of Machpelah would then be when Avraham was 137--that would be 3690 years ago.
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                                                                                                  According to Yirmeyahu ben David, using Funk and Wagnall's, Encyclopedia Judaica, Groliers, and Biblical Archaeology Review, it is very close to 4062 years ago that Avraham bought that cave. The cave is still there which is really problematic for these non-scientists.
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                                                                                                      That's not precise enough for me. Do you know the exact date when the purchase agreement was signed and is it according to the Julian or Gregorian calendar?
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                                                                                                          According to Yirmeyahu ben David, using Funk and Wagnall's, Encyclopedia Judaica, Groliers, and Biblical Archaeology Review, it is very close to 4062 years ago that Avraham bought that cave. The cave is still there which is really problematic for these non-scientists.
                                                                                                          By the way, 365 days in one year. Calendars fall out of the equation.
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                                                                                                              The Binding of Yitzchak traditionally is believed to have occured on Rosh Hashanah, and according to the Midrash, Sarah passed away when she heard that Yitzchak was going to be sacrificed. Avraham purchased Machpelah to bury Sarah.
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                                                                                                              If you consider Genesis history then we have nothing to discuss. Incidentally, I don't claim to be a journalist; are you suggesting that only journalists are entitled to critique other journalists?.
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                                                                                                                  What gall. Rejecting a document that has scientifically been proven to have been carefully copied and then pompously assuming superiority. Add to your rejected list Microsoft Encarta 95 Virtual edition of Funk and Wagnall's Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia Judaica, Grolier's (Virtual) Enclyclopedia, and Biblical Archaeology Review.
                                                                                                                  You can critique anything you know much or little about, especially in this kind of forum. Journalism isn't objective so critical analysis is futile.
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                                                                                                            1) A nuclear Iran is inevitable for the following reasons: 1) Russia and China need oil, and oppose US/EU interests. 2) N Korea continues to show that nuclear weapons can be used as an effective tactic to get attention and possibly minor concessions 3) Information by its very nature disseminates; technological evolution facilitates this as well as the next terrible weapons (biological, cyber, what have you).
                                                                                                            On to your other points: At what point, on what issues, has Netanyahu backed down or played the doormat in the last 5 years? As far as the world has seen, he's stepped UP settlement building, with the gall to do so right after the last attack. The attacks have gotten MORE frequent and MORE severe. This despite the Iron Dome making conditions safer.
                                                                                                            Supporting the overthrow of Morsi was right call both on a human rights level (as he was an inept and corrupt leader who gunned down scores of protesters in Tahrir Square) and on a political level. He supports a 2-state solution, has kept a hard line with the Palestinians, and knows which side his bread is buttered on vis: the US.
                                                                                                            The Black Caucus walking out is a betrayal. You wouldn't believe the lies that are commonly believed about Jews by that particular community, among others. But the takeaway is that the Israel has to start paying attention to its PR in the US! And shrill columns - or smug IDF press pics of hunky Golanis saving orphans aren't going to do it. An effort must be made not only to alleviate the suffering of the Palestinians, but in a way where there can be no ambiguity.
                                                                                                            Obama doesn't trust Bibi. He doesn't like him -- that was caught on a hot mic. I can't imagine what purpose he thinks addressing congress is going to serve. Maybe its chutzpadik enough to work. The White House has already issued a pre-emptive rebuttal, which will take some of the impact away And we've been looking at a lean, mean O recently; vetoing the XL pipeline, getting a win on Net Neutrality - if he was looking for a reason to tweak Bibi or remind Israel who's in charge, now he has one.
                                                                                                            It's hard to like him, but it's harder not to admire his spunk. But going to congress is messing with O's house; there will be a price to pay, rhetorical or otherwise.
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                                                                                                                This is 67 all over again when push comes to shove the world will stand back and watch.

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